Granite 3S vs 223S
The Granite 223S adds a center differential and steering assistance at a modest increase over the V3's published launch price. The useful question is what that buys you when driving, maintaining or replacing a truck. This comparison covers the ARA4302V3 and ARA4302V4 RTR editions.
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Photo: Horizon HobbyArrma Granite 3S BLX V3
Model number: ARA4302V3
Specifications updated .
Photo: Horizon HobbyArrma Granite 223S BLX DSC
Model number: ARA4302V4
Specifications updated .
How the stock setups compare
Both trucks use a 15T pinion, 57T spur and 10.83:1 final drive. The motor rating changes from 3200Kv on V3 to 3100Kv on 223S, so matching gearing doesn't produce an increase in ideal motor or wheel speed at the same voltage. The center differential and DSC-equipped electronics are the more substantial differences. Granite 3S BLX V3: manufacturer specificationsGranite 223S BLX DSC: manufacturer specifications
The familiar Granite, with more driving assistance
Both versions offer 2S and 3S running, and the fitted gearing and tire diameter stay the same. The change from 3200Kv to 3100Kv reduces ideal wheel speed by about 3% at equal voltage. That calculation doesn't measure acceleration, but it does show why the 223S shouldn't be bought simply for a higher motor-speed figure.
The more useful changes are the center differential and adjustable DSC steering assistance. The differential lets the front and rear driveline speeds vary, while DSC corrects steering when the truck starts to lose direction. Adjusting that assistance gives you a way to make the truck easier to manage as you learn. It can't create tire grip or prevent a rollover when you turn too hard on a high-grip surface.
Granite 223S manufacturer announcementGranite 223S setup and DSC
A new center drive still leaves ordinary wear items
The move to a metal-geared center differential is a substantial mechanical change. It gives the newer truck a different way to manage front-to-rear drive, but it doesn't establish a lower breakage rate than a correctly adjusted V3 slipper. Bodywork, tires, shocks and bearings still deserve attention after hard landings and repeated 3S runs.
The Granite 223S build log by evd illustrates those ownership costs: it reports early thermal cutouts and tire damage, then shock repairs later in the build. Protection parts were fitted before the first bash and the setup changed further over time. Use the account as a reason to check cooling, tire condition and suspension after running, rather than a prediction of how often a stock Granite will break.
A small launch-price increase bought useful equipment
The U.S. V3 announcement in July 2020 listed US$319.99. The January 2025 Granite 223S announcement listed US$329.99, an increase of US$10, or about 3%, in nominal launch-listed dollars. These are published RTR prices, not a verified MSRP series or an inflation-adjusted comparison; neither package includes the driving battery and charger.
For that modest launch-price difference, the 223S added the center differential, DSC-equipped electronics and revised steering equipment. That's a useful package for a new owner who wants driving assistance. An existing V3 owner gets a different calculation: keeping a sound truck costs less than replacing it, and the newer combined ESC/receiver means future electronics changes need their radio connection planned as well.
V3 manufacturer announcement, July 2020223S manufacturer announcement, January 2025
The same tooth count, a different center drive
V3 uses ARA311034, a 57T slipper-clutch assembly. The 223S drawing replaces that with ARA311165, a 57T metal center differential. A slipper limits the torque transmitted through its friction surfaces; a center differential allows the front and rear driveline speeds to differ. Those are different ways of managing the drive even though both assemblies use a 57T gear.
For a worn spur, order the part that belongs to your installed mechanism. Moving from the slipper to the differential is a larger job involving the complete module and its supporting parts. Both exploded views are useful here because they show the assembly around the gear, including its mounts and drive connections.
DSC comes with a different electronics layout
The V3 has a separate BLX100 speed controller and receiver. The 223S uses the Spektrum SLT 80A combined ESC/receiver with Dynamic Stability Control, or DSC, which provides steering assistance. Replacing that combined unit affects both speed control and the radio connection, so include a compatible receiver arrangement in any electronics plan.
The steering hardware changes alongside it. V3 pairs the S651 servo with the ARA340181 23T saver; 223S pairs the S662 with the ARA340215 25T saver. Keeping the servo and saver matched avoids an otherwise easy ordering mistake. The 23T saver also appears as an option in the newer references, which makes the fitted pairing especially useful to know.
Useful overlap for keeping a Granite running
ARA310956, the 37T differential set, appears in both editions' drawings and parts references. That's a useful shared number when identifying a repair. It applies to that assembly, though; the change at the center of the truck shows why one shared differential listing can't stand in for a comparison of the entire drivetrain.
For chassis, shock and steering work, follow the relevant drawing and the parts already fitted to your truck. The selected listings below make those numbers easier to compare, while the specification tables keep dimensions and equipment alongside them. Optional parts remain identified as options so you can distinguish a possible upgrade from the RTR setup.
Granite V3 parts and assembliesGranite 223S standard and option parts
Which edition makes sense for you?
For a first Granite, the 223S's center differential and adjustable steering assistance are useful additions for the US$10 increase between published launch listings. Its stock gearing is unchanged, so the case for it rests on control and equipment rather than a meaningful increase in ideal speed.
A healthy V3 remains worth keeping if you're comfortable with how it drives. Repairing it doesn't require converting the entire center drive or replacing the electronics. If you do want those changes, price the complete module and radio arrangement before buying individual parts. MEGA and BOOST Granites need their own comparison.
Specifications side by side
Use these figures alongside the comparison above. They match the linked vehicle sheets, including estimates and any limits on the measurements.
Drivetrain
| Specification | Granite 3S BLX V3 | Granite 223S BLX DSC |
|---|---|---|
| Pinion | 15 TStock | 15 TStock |
| Spur | 57 TStock | 57 TStock |
| Transmission & axle | 2.85 :1Stock | 2.85 :1Derived |
| Spur ÷ pinion | 3.800 :1Calculated | 3.800 :1Calculated |
| Final drive | 10.83 :1Stock | 10.83 :1Stock |
| Differentials | Gear front and rearStock | Gear front, center and rearStock |
| Slipper clutch | Yes Stock | Not researched yet |
| Hub bearing size | Front/rear inner 12 × 18 × 4; outer 6 × 12 × 4 mm, Stock wheel hubs only. Inner is toward the vehicle; dimensions are ID × OD × width.Stock | Front/rear inner 12 × 18 × 4; outer 6 × 12 × 4 mm, Stock wheel hubs only. Inner is toward the vehicle; dimensions are ID × OD × width.Stock |
| Pinion bore | 5 mm Stock | 5 mm Stock |
| Pinion pitch | Mod 0.8 Stock | Mod 0.8 Stock |
| Spur pitch | Mod 0.8 Stock | Mod 0.8 Stock |
| Diff oil, front | Not researched yet | 10K cSt Stock |
| Diff oil, center | Not researched yet | 500K cSt Stock |
| Diff oil, rear | Not researched yet | 10K cSt Stock |
Power
| Specification | Granite 3S BLX V3 | Granite 223S BLX DSC |
|---|---|---|
| Motor | 3200 KVStock | 3100 KVStock |
| Motor shaft | 5 mm Stock | 5 mm Stock |
| Battery | 2S to 3S LiPoStock | 2S to 3S LiPoStock |
| Stock motor | Spektrum Firma 3660 3200Kv Brushless Motor Stock | Spektrum 3100Kv Brushless Motor Stock |
| Stock ESC | ARRMA BLX100 Stock | Spektrum SLT 80A 2-in-1 Waterproof ESC & Receiver 2S/3S with DSC Stock |
| Battery connector | IC5 Stock | IC5 Stock |
| Motor size | 3660 can, 4-poleStock | 3660 can, 4-poleStock |
| ESC rating | 100 A continuousStock | 80 A continuousStock |
| Water resistance | Water-resistant vehicle with waterproof electronics Stock | Waterproof electronics, water-resistant mechanical components Stock |
| Battery pack configuration | 1 × 2S or 1 × 3S LiPo; follow the exact-model manual for pack type, connector and tray limits.Stock | 1 × 2S or 1 × 3S LiPo; follow the exact-model manual for pack type, connector and tray limits.Stock |
| Motor mount hole pattern | 25.4 mm motor-screw spacing, Included ARA311032 motor plate. Published spacing is not a maximum motor-can or pinion clearance.Stock | Not researched yet |
| Motor mount material | Aluminum Included ARA311032 motor plate; housing and gear cover are separate composite parts.Stock | Aluminum Stock ARA311192 motor plate identified by exact model exploded view.Stock |
| Battery space | 156-157 × 51 × 48 (listed) mm, Regional ARA4302V3B listing prints 156 and 157 for the first dimension. Nominal listed envelope; confirm actual pack clearance.Stock | 139 × 51 × 48 mm max pack, L × W × HStock |
| ESC mounting dimensions | 43 × 54.5 × 34 mm (L × W × H), Original BLX100 envelope, including hold-down tabs in the width. Mounting-hole spacing and available chassis clearance are separate.Stock | Not researched yet |
| ESC motor connector | 4 mm bullet Original BLX100 motor-side bullets; battery EC5 connector is separate.Stock | 4 mm bullet Original supplied 2-in-1 ESC/receiver motor output; battery and servo connections are separate.Stock |
Suspension
| Specification | Granite 3S BLX V3 | Granite 223S BLX DSC |
|---|---|---|
| Chassis | Composite tubStock | Composite Stock |
| Shocks, front | Oil-filled composite body, 3 mm shaftSingle report | Oil-filled 3 mm shaftStock |
| Shocks, rear | Oil-filled 3 mm shaftSingle report | Oil-filled 3 mm shaftStock |
| Shock bore, front | 11 mmStock | 11 mmStock |
| Shock bore, rear | 11 mmStock | 11 mmStock |
| Shock length, front | 101 mm listed lengthCommunity | 101 mm listed lengthCommunity |
| Shock length, rear | 115 mm listed lengthCommunity | 115 mm listed lengthCommunity |
| Front upper shock bolt | 3 × 20mm buttonhead (AR721320) Stock shock mounting hardware; a nearby camber, knuckle or chassis screw is a different position.Stock | 3 × 20mm buttonhead (AR721320) Stock shock mounting hardware; a nearby camber, knuckle or chassis screw is a different position.Stock |
| Front lower shock bolt | 3 × 16mm buttonhead (AR721316) Stock shock mounting hardware; a nearby camber, knuckle or chassis screw is a different position.Stock | 3 × 16mm buttonhead (AR721316) Stock shock mounting hardware; a nearby camber, knuckle or chassis screw is a different position.Stock |
| Rear upper shock bolt | 3 × 20mm buttonhead (AR721320) Stock shock mounting hardware; a nearby camber, knuckle or chassis screw is a different position.Stock | 3 × 20mm buttonhead (AR721320) Stock shock mounting hardware; a nearby camber, knuckle or chassis screw is a different position.Stock |
| Rear lower shock bolt | 3 × 16mm buttonhead (AR721316) Stock shock mounting hardware; a nearby camber, knuckle or chassis screw is a different position.Stock | 3 × 16mm buttonhead (AR721316) Stock shock mounting hardware; a nearby camber, knuckle or chassis screw is a different position.Stock |
Steering & radio
| Specification | Granite 3S BLX V3 | Granite 223S BLX DSC |
|---|---|---|
| Steering servo | Spektrum S651 metal gear, digital, waterproofStock | Spektrum S662 metal gear, digital, waterproofStock |
| Servo torque | 7.4 kg-cm at 7.2 V (103 oz-in)Stock | 10.1 kg-cm at 6.0 V (140 oz-in); Component rating; installed performance depends on the supplied voltage.Stock |
| Servo speed | 0.14 s per 60° at 6.0 V; Component rating at 6.0 V; the installed supply voltage is not inferred.Single report | 0.17 s per 60° at 6.0 V; Component rating; installed performance depends on the supplied voltage.Stock |
| Transmitter | Spektrum SLT3 3-channel, 2.4 GHz, 4 AAStock | Spektrum SLT3 3-channel, 2.4 GHz, 4 AAStock |
| Receiver | Spektrum SLR300 3-channelStock | Spektrum SPMXSE8010RX Stock |
| Stock servo spline | 23 teethStock | 25 teethStock |
| Stock horn spline | 23 teethStock | 25 teeth, Stock ARA340215 direct-mount servo saver; a tooth count does not establish other horn clearances.Stock |
| Stock servo dimensions | 40 × 20 × 39 mm (L × W × H), SPMS651; manufacturer product dimensionsStock | 40 × 20 × 39 mm (manufacturer listed dimensions), SPMS662; manufacturer product dimensionsStock |
| Stability control | Not researched yet | Spektrum DSC Stock |
Wheels & tires
| Specification | Granite 3S BLX V3 | Granite 223S BLX DSC |
|---|---|---|
| Tire diameter | 128 mmStock | 128 mmStock |
| Rollout | 37.1 mm per motor turnCalculated | 37.1 mm per motor turnCalculated |
| Wheel hex | 14 mm Stock | 14 mm Stock |
| Axle thread | M4 Stock AR708008 wheel-retaining nut. M4 thread diameter; source does not specify thread pitch.Stock | M4 Stock AR708008 wheel-retaining nut. M4 thread diameter; source does not specify thread pitch.Stock |
| Stock tire width | 2.1" (53mm) OEM width of the fitted pre-mounted tire/wheel assembly; bare wheel width and offset are separate.Stock | 2.1" (53mm) OEM width of the fitted pre-mounted tire/wheel assembly; bare wheel width and offset are separate.Stock |
| Stock wheel diameter | 2.8" (72mm) Nominal wheel bead-seat diameter; tire outside diameter and wheel flange diameter are separate.Stock | 2.8" (72mm) Nominal wheel bead-seat diameter; tire outside diameter and wheel flange diameter are separate.Stock |
Size & weight
| Specification | Granite 3S BLX V3 | Granite 223S BLX DSC |
|---|---|---|
| Weight | 2.83 kg (6.2 lb) Single report | 3.47 kg (7.7 lb) Stock |
| Length | 476 mm 18.7 inStock | 470 mm 18.5 inStock |
| Width | 342 mm 13.5 inStock | 340 mm 13.4 inStock |
| Height | 206 mm 8.1 inStock | 204 mm 8 inStock |
| Wheelbase | 287 mm 11.3 inStock | 284 mm 11.2 inStock |
Selected component listings
The references below were checked through . Shared numbers can help identify a replacement, but a conversion also needs the surrounding assembly and mounts checked. Options are labelled, and a missing listing means fitment still needs confirmation.
| Part number | Granite 3S BLX V3 | Granite 223S BLX DSC |
|---|---|---|
| ARA311034One edition listed | ARRMA HD 57T Slipper Set (0.8Mod)diagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V3 | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown |
| ARA311165One edition listed | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown | ARRMA 57T Metal Center Differential Set, 0.8 MODdiagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Parts technical pack (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V4 |
| ARA310956Shared listing | ARRMA Differential Set (37T 1.35M)diagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V3 | ARRMA Differential Set (37T 1.35M)diagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Parts technical pack (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V4 |
| AR330550Shared listing | ARRMA Shock Set, Front (2)listedOfficial Horizon parts results for ARA4302V3 | ARRMA Shock Set, Front (2)listedOfficial Horizon parts results for ARA4302V4 |
| ARA330550One edition listed | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown | ARRMA Shock Set, Front (2)listedOfficial parts results |
| ARA340181Shared listing | ARRMA Direct Mount Servo Saver (23T Spline)diagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V3 | ARRMA Direct Mount Servo Saver (23T Spline)optionalARRMA Direct Mount Servo Saver (23T Spline) |
| ARA340215One edition listed | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown | ARRMA Direct Mount Servo Saver (25T Spline)diagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Parts technical pack (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V4 |
| SPMS651One edition listed | Spektrum S651 7Kg Servo Steel Brass Geardiagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V3 | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown |
| SPMS662One edition listed | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown | Spektrum S662 18kg Servo, Steel Gear 25Tdiagram, listedInstruction manual (Horizon PDF)Exploded view (Horizon PDF)Parts technical pack (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V4 |
| SPMXSM2000One edition listed | Spektrum Firma 3660 3200Kv 4-Pole Brushless Motordiagram, listedOwner's manual (PDF)Exploded view (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V3 | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown |
| SPMX-1081One edition listed | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown | Spektrum Firma 3660-3100Kv 4-Pole Sensorless Brushless Motor: 5mmdiagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Parts technical pack (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V4 |
| ARA320607One edition listed | Composite Chassis - SWBdiagramExploded view (Horizon PDF) | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown |
| ARA-2148One edition listed | Not listed in the collected references; fitment unknown | ARRMA Composite Chassis - SWB V2diagram, listedExploded view (Horizon PDF)Parts technical pack (Horizon PDF)Official Horizon parts results for ARA4302V4 |
Before ordering or converting
- Confirm the exact model number and the parts currently fitted to your vehicle.
- Check the part number and listing role in the linked document. An optional listing is not proof of factory equipment.
- For a conversion, check the complete assembly, mounting points, gear mesh and supporting parts in both editions' manuals.
Open the full interactive parts comparison for all collected listings and filters.
Sources and further checks
Granite 3S BLX V3
Granite 223S BLX DSC
Use the model identification guide if the edition is unclear. Read how specifications are checked, or send a correction.